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Thread: FEBRUARY RECRUITMENT CONTEST -- ALL TEAMS WELCOME |
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chipmonk3775
Cruncher Joined: Feb 21, 2006 Post Count: 6 Status: Offline |
I'm still putting machines online, as I get time. I have tried both the UD and BOINC clients on one particular machine (from a thread in another forum), and while I have only been at WCG about a week and a half, I don't see a large difference in points vs results. While the points increased for the machine, so did the results returned per day - and that's good news!
Does anyone have experience in trying to run a gigahertz or so P3 class machine in computations? It would seem like a waste of electricity. The last machine I put online was a dual CPU 1 GHz P3 Xeon, and it has barely computed anything (of course, there are also about 4 other [actual work] things it's doing) In case anyone else is hesitating to put their laptop online, you might want to try ThreadMaster (freeware) (http://threadmaster.tripod.com/) which should allow throttling down of processors to less than 100%. I don't think laptops are designed to run flat out 24/7. I'll try it this weekend, hopefully, and see how it works. An additional note, for anyone running an Intel P4 "prescott" core (Em64T) with the Intel-provided CPU cooler. The machine I have, fortunately, has a CPU thermometer indicator on the front panel. It shows the processor runs at +10degC above ambient (so about 100degF) at idle. While under 100% load, however, it will rise over 65C (150F) or +35C even with the fan running at full speed. This is the low end of "processor warning" temps, and it's still winter. Anyway, if you're going to run your dual core or 64 bit processors flat out, make sure your PC has adequate fans to get the hot air out of the case. Better yet, get an aftermarket CPU cooler (www.newegg.com has a good assortment) which is more efficient. Most of the high end models use heat pipes (Hi Bill!)  I have not yet tried the new Intel 65nm "Cedar Mill" processors (the Prescott use a 90nm die) though it seems that the purpose for creating them was to reduce the heat output from the CPU (see http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/10/07/a_sneak_peak_at_intel/index.html) rather than to improve performance. Cheers fb |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Is this where we gloat? Or perhaps, where we start thinking about a new competition? One that's not quite so loaded, where any team can win? We won! We won! \o/ LOADED??? Is the winner, who won by more than twice as much as the 2nd place team, and about 8 times the 3rd place team, actually complaining that the competition was loaded? Or are you conceding that you have an unfair advantage, and that you need an even greater handicap in the next competition?  Speaking for myself, I can't see how HomeBrewers could engage specifically in recruitment on the various beer brewing forums for at least several months. Many people tend to get ticked off if a thread is started just about grid-computing and WCG, despite that it's for a good cause and that our team is named "HomeBrewers" and is _for_ homebrewers. Many think it's too off topic and a form of spam, but on the other hand, it has also been received well on many forums. My opinion is that there is a reasonable nexus to justify posting in those forums, which is why I do it; however, it isn't something that should be done often. Moreover, since there have been a couple of threads now on all of the brewing forums to which I belong, I think I have probably already recruited most of the folk who are willing to do this. Of course, there are always new members joining, and some might still be considering it, so I suppose there is still the potential for a few more. The bottom line is that I don't think we can push our best recruiting efforts for at least a few more months, and I even have doubts about how well we can expect to do then. But I'm willing to give it a try maybe in June. Cheers. Bill Velek |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Hence my belief that the next competition shouldn't be recruitment based.
I'm sure we can come up with a metric that nullifies team size. We just need to decide what we want to compete about. Points? |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Well, points sounds like a good idea, and I'm sure we can establish some reasonable way to prorate based on team size, etc. But how, exactly, would a team actually compete in a contest based on points? Because I'm sure that only a very few members of HomeBrewers communicate on these boards, their points will probably remain unaffected, boiling this down to the active efforts of myself and possibly a few others. Well, speaking for myself, my computers are already on 24x7, and I have them set to the maximum possible disk allocation. I have already installed BOINC on one of them, and could possibly do that to the other, but the only other way for me to wring out more performance (and points) will be an equipment upgrade, which I'm probably not going to do just for this.
----------------------------------------So then it seems to me to based on membership; getting more recruits means more computers crunching, and we're back where we started. And how would we ensure a level playing field that would eliminate luck; luck in the sense that one team might receive some monster WU's during the final two or more days of the competition, and then just miss finishing and receiving points before the deadline. It's an interesting challenge if we can work it out. I'm open to it. I'd also like to get more teams involved. Cheers. Bill Velek [Edit 1 times, last edit by Former Member at Mar 2, 2006 9:49:03 PM] |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Maybe you're highlighting a more significant point. We can only compete as teams if we can get the whole teams involved.
*gives deep thought* |
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