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Time to retire them to the computer rest home. They did there duty. Time for some multicore processors. I see intel talking about the 6 and 8 core xeons coming out. Probably out of my price range. Might look at AMD for my next multiprocessor system.
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I would like to know what other members have for CPU temps on laptops.

I have a macbook with a core 2 duo 2.4 ghz proc. If I run boinc full bore on only 1 core and max out the fan my temp is 160-165 F.

Compare that with my mac pro tower and those proc's run at 90 F. That is a huge swing in temps.

So, what is an acceptable max temp I should be running my mac book at?

Today I ripped a DVD with HandBreak so I could put it on my son's ipod and while ripping it ran at 205-209 F for an hour and a half while it transcoded it.

Any thoughts (even if you are not on our team). I would like your input.
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Re: Minnesota Crunchers

I would like to know what other members have for CPU temps on laptops.

I have a macbook with a core 2 duo 2.4 ghz proc. If I run boinc full bore on only 1 core and max out the fan my temp is 160-165 F.

Compare that with my mac pro tower and those proc's run at 90 F. That is a huge swing in temps.

So, what is an acceptable max temp I should be running my mac book at?

Today I ripped a DVD with HandBreak so I could put it on my son's ipod and while ripping it ran at 205-209 F for an hour and a half while it transcoded it.

Any thoughts (even if you are not on our team). I would like your input.
It seems a little hot to me. 205-209F might be just barely in spec, but even it if is that sort of heat can't be good for the surrounding components.

The Intel site is a good place for information on maximum processor temperatures.... but it can be terribly frustrating to find what you are looking for. Here's the spec on a C2D T8300, which might be similar to the processor in your macbook.

As a comparison, I have a laptop with a C2D 2.5ghz and I let both processors run WUs at 100%. I regularly see temperatures in the 130F range, but I've not run it during summer (yet). I'd start getting concerned around 150F since I'm on the conservative side when it comes to system temperatures.

If you haven't cleaned the dust out of your macbook in a while, you should try that and see if it helps.

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i have never bothered to check temps but i have multiple laptops running at 100% for years on end. all have been uncomfortably hot on the body but i have had only one issue with a cpu fan that slowed down. keep them off the carpet and the bed spread and you should be fine.
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i have never bothered to check temps but i have multiple laptops running at 100% for years on end. all have been uncomfortably hot on the body but i have had only one issue with a cpu fan that slowed down. keep them off the carpet and the bed spread and you should be fine.


Also suggest you raise the laptops off the desk a few inches to help keep the body cool too. There should be a app for you to control the fans so you can crank them up. Not a windows user so someone here can chime in on where to get it.
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I would like to know what other members have for CPU temps on laptops.

I have a macbook with a core 2 duo 2.4 ghz proc. If I run boinc full bore on only 1 core and max out the fan my temp is 160-165 F.

Compare that with my mac pro tower and those proc's run at 90 F. That is a huge swing in temps.

So, what is an acceptable max temp I should be running my mac book at?

Today I ripped a DVD with HandBreak so I could put it on my son's ipod and while ripping it ran at 205-209 F for an hour and a half while it transcoded it.

Any thoughts (even if you are not on our team). I would like your input.
It seems a little hot to me. 205-209F might be just barely in spec, but even it if is that sort of heat can't be good for the surrounding components.

The Intel site is a good place for information on maximum processor temperatures.... but it can be terribly frustrating to find what you are looking for. Here's the spec on a C2D T8300, which might be similar to the processor in your macbook.

As a comparison, I have a laptop with a C2D 2.5ghz and I let both processors run WUs at 100%. I regularly see temperatures in the 130F range, but I've not run it during summer (yet). I'd start getting concerned around 150F since I'm on the conservative side when it comes to system temperatures.

If you haven't cleaned the dust out of your macbook in a while, you should try that and see if it helps.

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For Windows, make sure you're using RealTemp to monitor temps on Core/Core2 CPUs. I think they added support for i3/i5/i7 too.

It varies a lot by laptop. Some run hot so the fan doesn't make as much noise. Some don't. Good ones let you choose.

My Sony Vaio with a Core 2 @ 2.4ghz maintains about 60-62C running BOINC at 100%. I have a Dell Latitude D630 with a Core 2 2.1ghz that hits 80C though, and a D620 that hits 90C and it's only a 2.0ghz. Still under spec by 10C, but yeah I wouldn't want that sitting on my lap. The D620 doesn't seem to kick in the fan much at all until it gets close to 90C, so I'm assuming this is by design and not just a broken fan.

The Dells are work machines so I don't care too much if they die. The Sony is mine, sometimes the fan noise keeping it at 60C is a bit much, I can always throttle back to one core if I need it quieter for a time.

My Quads running at various speeds between 3.0-3.45ghz are around 65-70C with all four cores crunching. Of course they have nice big Zallman HSFs and are still pretty darn quiet.
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This is amazing. First of all I do always have my macbook raised and I do have smcFanControl running to monitor the temp and set the fan speed. The fan speed was set to 6200 rpm's when I ran handbreak and the temps were in the 200's.

So, here is what I did. I opened it up and was going to see if it was dusty or something. Being less than a year old I figured it could not be that dusty, and it was not. But right on the leading edge of the CPU fan blades (about 20 of them) there was a micro fine layer of dust. I took a can of air a blew it off. I thought to myself there is no way that would help. It was such a minute amount. I put it all back together and this fricken laptop is running both cores at 100% and I can't get it above 140 F. That's 50 F cooler!!!
The dust on the edge of the blades were enough to cause it not to catch air, or something. I'm so happy. smile I'm going to open this thing up more often. I suggest you all do the same if you have a laptop. good luck coffee peace hugs applause
Did I mention I'm really happy right now?
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140F is a lot better. As for a little dust making that much of a difference --- welcome to the world of fluid dynamics. Turbulent flow caused by dust can impact total air flow and thus cooling.... causing the fan to work harder and produce still more heat. The smaller the fan is, the more pronounced the effect and it's not a linear relationship.

Glad you've seen such an improvement from a simple dusting.

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140F is a lot better. As for a little dust making that much of a difference --- welcome to the world of fluid dynamics. Turbulent flow caused by dust can impact total air flow and thus cooling.... causing the fan to work harder and produce still more heat. The smaller the fan is, the more pronounced the effect and it's not a linear relationship.

Glad you've seen such an improvement from a simple dusting.

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Fluid dynamics. Turbulent flows. Vortices. Chaos theory. I understand in principle, but the mathematics are waaaaay beyond me. Got lost in 4th semester calculus and that was all she wrote and there ain't no more.

Glad you solved the heat problem.

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