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Sekerob
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Re Movieman's reply. If I read him correctly with HT on he gets 36 hours work done and 36 hours credited for ~4.5 hours wallclock. Opposed if HT were off he'd get 40 hours done and credited in ~10 hours wallclock (4 threads instead of 8), assuming 100% efficiency. Can't fault anyone for switching on HT. I'm though rather surprised that 'per job' with 4 virtual cores added, the jobs run each 13% faster. Possibly I misunderstood. I'd always thought there was a price i.e. jobs running longer, but not much opposed to the old P4-Ht implementation.
----------------------------------------Else, no other way but the fasted way to completion and if that's at 4Ghz instead of 2.6Ghz to push more work through in that time frame. That's even better. I want one, but not get one until my stock quad keels over. Badges are on time for the valid jobs turned in. If that's parallel processed or sequential it does not matter. Don't think that will ever change. Badges are for fun and if it trips me over going to the shop to get more... hey that's how all learned to stand up and walk or run towards their personal goals in life. Each her/his choice and if anyone is faulted for that it becomes a moment of reflection.
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sk..
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On an i7 with HT switched on you will do 13% more work but get twice as many badges!
----------------------------------------On other HT systems the amount of work that will be done will vary, and as I explained, might even be less in some cases. You would however still get twice as many badges. Yeah, just for turning HT on. In the near future there will be many HT CPUs to choose from. Now there is really only one. So now is the time to sort the problem out, before it gets any worse. Granting someone twice as much credit through the most prominent system, badges, is not good for the WCG credibility. The points system of Boinc and the WCG is a good system and would serve the community better: Just allocate badges based on the amount of points you get for any given project. 100000, 250000, 500000... or whatever you decide is reasonable for each project at that time. Some run for a few months, some for several years. The points system is a universally proven system, its logical, simple to implement and most importantly its fair. Picture this: A 16 thread system clocked at 800MHz. You would get to bronze in less than a day, but would you be worth it? Hardly, the system has 8 cores and only does 13% more work. How powerful is it? 8x1.13x800MHz=7.23GHZ. Your i7 would be much faster compared to this, but will get half the badges. In fact a Q6600 would do more work but only get one quarter of the badges. Unfortunately the present badge system encourages this scenario. Thanks for taking the time to think about it, [Edit 1 times, last edit by skgiven at Oct 19, 2009 11:03:36 PM] |
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HutchNYC
Advanced Cruncher United States Joined: Nov 27, 2005 Post Count: 97 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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It's not a question of doing 13% more work. It's all about the # of work units completed. The goal is simply to finish the WU.
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sk..
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It's not a question of doing 13% more work. We are talking about the existing badge system. There is no question. There is a problem. We are getting badges for the number of threads our CPUs are using and how long the system is on, rather than the work they do. This is a problem because people using HT are getting twice the amount of badges, even though they are doing only 13% more work, and because this inequality is likely to rise with new HT enabled CPUs. It's all about the # of work units completed. Well it should be, but its all about getting badges and that has nothing to do with getting work done. The goal is simply to finish the WU. Quickly helps! Science has a quick turnaround. So lets not award people for talking all day to do a job they could do in half a day. The run time and points are merely statistical data. Yeah, especially sitting beside badges! A picture paints 1000 words... |
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Former Member
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So I am doing only 13% more work , happy dreams
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Movieman
Veteran Cruncher Joined: Sep 9, 2006 Post Count: 1042 Status: Offline |
It's not a question of doing 13% more work. We are talking about the existing badge system. There is no question. There is a problem. We are getting badges for the number of threads our CPUs are using and how long the system is on, rather than the work they do. This is a problem because people using HT are getting twice the amount of badges, even though they are doing only 13% more work, and because this inequality is likely to rise with new HT enabled CPUs. It's all about the # of work units completed. Well it should be, but its all about getting badges and that has nothing to do with getting work done. The goal is simply to finish the WU. Quickly helps! Science has a quick turnaround. So lets not award people for talking all day to do a job they could do in half a day. The run time and points are merely statistical data. Yeah, especially sitting beside badges! A picture paints 1000 words... Hello my friend and once again, my apologies for being so slow to see the point you were trying to make. I think we have to break this down into a few areas. 1) the badges and your issue as to how HT affects it. Your right, no arguements from me at all. It's an issue and using points vs core time may well be a better solution. 2) The "why" on why are we here and machine usage. I'm going to make the assumption that what is or at least should be the top reason for being here is to get the work accomplished in the shortest timeframe. Based on that and just speaking for myself if turning on HT cuts 30 mins off the time needed to do those 8 HCC WU I mentioned earlier then I'll assume you'll agree with me that I'm using the machine in it's most efficient manner. Now we come to the conclusion that there is an issue in the badges but also that having HT turned on is the most efficient use of the machine and with it on it does more work in a given timeframe. What to do? I'll de damned if I have an answer regarding the badges and God's truth what is done if anything doesn't matter to me in the least. In my mind it all boils down to what are we after and what is of importance? Getting the work done or accumulating badges? To Sek: I'll try and explain it a bit better. on that i7-965 at 3733 with HT off it would run 4 HCC WU at a time and take app 2.5 hours for each to complete so doing 2 'sets" of them would take 5 hours and you'd be granted 20 hours of time on the project( 5 hours times 4 threads or WU running at once) on the same machine with HT turned on 8 HCC WU would run at once and take app 4.5 hours for all 8 to complete. So you'd then get granted 36 hours time on project using HT.(8x4.5) So skygiven has a legitamate point when he says it skews the time numbers used for the badges. The point is that is all it negatively effects. It still gets the 8 WU done 30 mins faster than with HT turned off and that means especially over the long term your doing much more work for the project with HT turned on. Fast numbers, your gaining 2+ hours per day of time to work on "extra" WU if you get my meaning. It's a win-win for the project but again, skygiven has a legit point on the badges. I was thinking on how to please everyone on this issue and the idea of using points vs time is a good one IMHO. Much more realistic measurement. Maybe you start a thread if you like the idea and ask how the people would feel about changing it? I have no idea how much work that would present to implement so take my words the way I mean them and whatever you do or don't my old arse will still be here tomorrow.. Forgot to add, VERY soon I'll show you a 12 core/24 thread machine..   |
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themoonscrescent
Veteran Cruncher UK Joined: Jul 1, 2006 Post Count: 1320 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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I can't believe this thread is still going?
----------------------------------------How is 1 machine running 8 cores any different from 1 person running 8 single core machines??, they'll still return 8 days in 1 (average)? Perhaps this is the answer to the Badge Question??? WCG should only allow people to join that own one single 333mmx running windows 95, that will ensure a level playing field where no one can achieve a coloured square quicker than anyone else. In the mean time, research takes forever to finish and Scientists will be unwilling to have their research crunched on WCG due to the sheer amount of time it takes to complete, so they take their research to sites that allow any and all machines without question or argument which would probably result in WCG closing down.... Personally, I've got a lot better things to do and worry about then pacing up and down my room, getting all het up about someone somewhere getting a blue badge before I do, all because they have a i7 8/9xx. I crunch for cures, if I wanted a coloured badge, I'd go down to my local high street and buy some.   |
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Sekerob
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Movieman, now I understand and it is a bit perturbing that 2x4x2.5 for 5 hours wallclock v 8 x 4.5 turns out so less gain, where before I thought to have read 30% (probably on another metric which I'll not touch now with a long pole).
----------------------------------------I'm pretty sure that if you run the technology as it was intended, it will invoke zero urge on WCG side to make a change. With more work processed per watt of energy, you have my blessing also from the environmental perspective. So we'll continue to Crunch On. (and as it clearly has not escaped the attentions, I have all 15 colored squares skgiven... yes I'm a show off  )
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sk..
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Sekerob, I like the fact that you and others have so many badges. Its good for the WCG and I hope you get many more.
----------------------------------------When I first joined the WCG I just picked one project. I was unaware of badges, and did not have the time to read up on the WCG, as I was involved in several other Boinc projects. I also found that my P 660 with HT roared like a vacuum cleaner with HT switched on and crashed running Beta tests. When I worked out there was a badge system I realised shortly afterwards that I would not get many badges, because the earlier projects were ending! I was not the only person in this position, and some people have only one or two Blue badges now, but plenty of work done for them. For this reason I think there should be at least 2 more badges – to show these people due respect, but this is an aside. They might only have one badge and not post too many comments, but they contribute plenty and deserve recognition for that. If you had Aids or Cancer, or your child had cancer you might well have a different approach to badge collection. The main way people get recognised is through badges so I am asking for a fair system. The forums don’t show how many points you have or how many years worth of project time you have contributed. It is therefore important that the badge system is a fair one and seen to be fair to all. Presently it is not fair because systems with HT get more credit than deserved. This is not to say that users should not be recognised for the extra 13% or so. Of course they should, but they should not be given 200% where 113% is due. This is a put off to the users with lesser systems and I would be concerned about that. What is worse is that there are other HT systems that don’t contribute as much as the SKT1366 i7 CPUs. The older CPUs and the new i7 socket 1156 CPU: I expect HT will offer little given the Absences of the X58 chipset and Triple speed DDR3 as seen on the SKT1366 boards; The SKT1156 will use an inferior chipset and only dual-channel DDR3 RAM. The CPUs don’t clock as well as the i7s for the SKT1366 boards and the SKT1156 board will not take an i9 when released. Presently the SKT1156 boards are at least as expensive as the SKT1366 and their CPUs are more expensive! By the way, HT increases performance variably from around 5% to 35%. Performance will change depending on CPU type, the task, operating system, and other system specs; especially RAM, chipset, bus and Bios settings. So your rig might be doing more, or less. No matter how much it offers, it is not the same as twice the number of cores. I am not arguing to turn off HT, please keep it on and do more work. I just realised how many CPUs actually use HT and how big the problem already is. We only have to go back a few generations, and there are hundreds of HT CPUs. You might recognise some of these, I know I had a couple: ALL These CPUs use HT - Intel Pentium 4: SL8J73.80 GHz5711800 MHz90 nmE01 MBLGA77504B SL7P23.80 GHzN/A1800 MHz90 nmE01 MBLGA77504B SL7Z33.80 GHz6701800 MHz90 nmN02 MBLGA77504B SL8Q93.80 GHz6721800 MHz90 nmR02 MBLGA77504B SL8PY3.80 GHz6701800 MHz90 nmR02 MBLGA77504B SL82U3.80 GHz570J1800 MHz90 nmE01 MBLGA77504B SL84Y3.80 GHz570J1800 MHz90 nmE01 MBLGA77504B SL7L93.60 GHz5601800 MHz90 nmD01 MBLGA77504B SL8WF3.60 GHz6611800 MHz65 nmB12 MBLGA77505A SL8UP3.60 GHz6621800 MHz90 nmR02 MBLGA77504A SL8QB3.60 GHz6621800 MHz90 nmR02 MBLGA77504B SL8PZ3.60 GHz6601800 MHz90 nmR02 MBLGA77504B SL7J93.60 GHz5601800 MHz90 nmD01 MBLGA77504B SL8J63.60 GHz5611800 MHz90 nmE01 MBLGA77504B SL7Z53.60 GHz6601800 MHz90 nmN02 MBLGA77504B SL84X3.60 GHz560J1800 MHz90 nmE01 MBLGA77504B SL7Q23.60 GHz560J1800 MHz90 nmE01 MBLGA77504B SL7NZ3.60 GHz5601800 MHz90 nmE01 MBLGA77504B SL94V3.60 GHz6611800 MHz65 nmB12 MBLGA77505A SL7KN3.60 GHz5601800 MHz90 nmD01 MBLGA77504B SL8J53.40 GHz5511800 MHz90 nmE01 MBLGA77504A SL7B93.40 GHzN/A1800 MHz90 nmC01 MB478 pinN/A SL7Z73.40 GHz6501800 MHz90 nmN02 MBLGA77504A SL7L83.40 GHzN/A1800 MHz90 nmD01 MBLGA77504B SL8K43.40 GHzN/A1800 MHz90 nmG11 MB478 pinN/A SL9KE3.40 GHz6511800 MHz65 nmD02 MBLGA77506 SL8333.40 GHz550J1800 MHz90 nmE01 MBLGA77504A SL7AJ3.40E GHzN/A1800 MHz90 nmC01 MB478 pinN/A SL88L3.40 GHzN/A1800 MHz90 nmE01 MB478 pinN/A SL7E63.40 GHzN/A1800 MHz90 nmD01 MB478 pinN/A SL7KD3.40 GHzN/A1800 MHz90 nmE01 MB478 pinN/A SL7J83.40 GHz5501800 MHz90 nmD01 MBLGA77504B SL9C53.40 GHz5511800 MHz90 nmG11 MBLGA77504A SL7KM3.40 GHz5501800 MHz90 nmD01 MBLGA77504B SL7PZ3.40 GHz5511800 MHz90 nmE01 MBLGA77504A SL94W3.40 GHz6511800 MHz65 nmB12 MBLGA77505A SL7PY3.40 GHz550J1800 MHz90 nmE01 MBLGA77504A SL8WG3.40 GHz6511800 MHz65 nmB12 MBLGA77505A SL8Q53.40 GHz6501800 MHz90 nmR02 MBLGA77504A SL8PS3.40 GHz5511800 MHz90 nmG11 MBLGA77504A SL7933.40 GHzN/A1800 MHz0.13 micronD1512 KB478 pinN/A SL7PP3.40 GHzN/A1800 MHz90 nmE01 MB478 pinN/A SL96J3.40 GHz6511800 MHz65 nmC12 MBLGA77505A SL7E53.20E GHzN/A1800 MHz90 nmD01 MB478 pinN/A SL7KL3.20 GHz5401800 MHz90 nmD01 MBLGA77504A SL7PN3.20E GHzN/A1800 MHz90 nmE01 MB478 pinN/A SL7L53.20 GHzN/A1800 MHz90 nmD01 MB478 pinN/A SL7PW3.20 GHz540J1800 MHz90 nmE01 MBLGA77504A SL7Z83.20 GHz6401800 MHz90 nmN02 MBLGA77504A SL7LA3.20 GHzN/A1800 MHz90 nmD01 MBLGA77504A SL7KC3.20E GHzN/A1800 MHz90 nmD01 MB478 pinN/A SL6WG3.20 GHzN/A1800 MHz0.13 micronD1512 KB478 pinN/A SL94X3.20 GHz6411800 MHz65 nmB12 MBLGA77505A SL8WH3.20 GHz6411800 MHz65 nmB12 MBLGA77505A SL79M3.20E GHzN/A1800 MHz90 nmC01 MB478 pinN/A SL9C63.20 GHz5411800 MHz90 nmG11 MBLGA77504A SL9KF3.20 GHz6411800 MHz65 nmD02 MBLGA77506 SL6WE3.20 GHzN/A1800 MHz0.13 micronD1512 KB478 pinN/A SL96K3.20 GHz6411800 MHz65 nmC12 MBLGA77505A SL8J23.20 GHz5411800 MHz90 nmE01 MBLGA775N/A SL7PX3.20 GHz5401800 MHz90 nmE01 MBLGA77504A SL7J73.20 GHz5401800 MHz90 nmD01 MBLGA77504A SL82Z3.20 GHz540J1800 MHz90 nmE01 MBLGA77504A SL8PR3.20 GHz5411800 MHz90 nmG11 MBLGA77504A SL8Q63.20 GHz6401800 MHz90 nmR02 MBLGA77504A SL8K23.20E GHzN/A1800 MHz90 nmG11 MB478 pinN/A SL7B83.20E GHzN/A1800 MHz90 nmC01 MB478 pinN/A SL6K73.06 GHzN/A1533 MHz0.13 micronC1512 KB478 pinN/A SL6SM3.06 GHzN/A1533 MHz0.13 micronC1512 KB478 pinN/A SL6PG3.06 GHzN/A1533 MHz0.13 micronD1512 KB478 pinN/A SL6S53.06 GHzN/A1533 MHz0.13 micronC1512 KB478 pinN/A SL6QC3.06 GHzN/A1533 MHz0.13 micronD1512 KB478 pinN/A SL8ZZ3.06 GHz5241533 MHz90 nmG11 MBLGA77504A SL9CA3.06 GHz5241533 MHz90 nmG11 MBLGA77504A SL6JJ3.06 GHzN/A1533 MHz0.13 micronC1512 KB478 pinN/A SL8JZ3 GHzN/A1800 MHz90 nmG11 MB478 pinN/A SL7E43E GHzN/A1800 MHz90 nmD01 MB478 pinN/A SL7J63 GHz5301800 MHz90 nmD01 MBLGA77504A SL94Y3 GHz6311800 MHz65 nmB12 MBLGA77505A SL8HZ3 GHz5311800 MHz90 nmE01 MBLGA77504A SL8WJ3 GHz6311800 MHz65 nmB12 MBLGA77505A SL79L3E GHzN/A1800 MHz90 nmC01 MB478 pinN/A SL6WU3 GHzN/A1800 MHz0.13 micronD1512 KB478 pinN/A SL8Q73 GHz6301800 MHz90 nmR02 MBLGA77504A SL6WK3 GHzN/A1800 MHz0.13 micronD1512 KB478 pinN/A SL7BK3 GHzN/A1800 MHz0.13 micronM0512 KB478 pinN/A SL8PQ3 GHz5311800 MHz90 nmG11 MBLGA77504A SL7PU3 GHz530J1800 MHz90 nmE01 MBLGA77504A SL7KK3 GHz5301800 MHz90 nmD01 MBLGA77504A SL7Z93 GHz6301800 MHz90 nmN02 MBLGA77504A SL9KG3 GHz6311800 MHz65 nmD02 MBLGA77506 SL7PM3E GHzN/A1800 MHz90 nmE01 MB478 pinN/A SL7L43 GHzN/A1800 MHz90 nmD01 MB478 pinN/A SL9CB3 GHz5311800 MHz90 nmG11 MBLGA77504A SL96L3 GHz6311800 MHz65 nmC12 MBLGA77505A SL7KB3E GHzN/A1800 MHz90 nmD01 MB478 pinN/A SL82X3 GHz530J1800 MHz90 nmE01 MBLGA77504A SL9CD2.93 GHz5171533 MHz90 nmG11 MBLGA77504A SL8ZY2.93 GHz5171533 MHz90 nmG11 MBLGA77504A SL6Z52.80 GHzN/A1800 MHz0.13 micronM0512 KB478 pinN/A SL6WT2.80 GHzN/A1800 MHz0.13 micronD1512 KB478 pinN/A SL9CG2.80 GHz5211800 MHz90 nmG11 MBLGA77504A SL8PP2.80 GHz5211800 MHz90 nmG11 MBLGA77504A SL6WJ2.80 GHzN/A1800 MHz0.13 micronD1512 KB478 pinN/A SL8HX2.80 GHz5211800 MHz90 nmE01 MBLGA77504A SL8AB2.80 GHz6201800 MHz90 nmN02 MBLGA77504A SL7J42.80 GHz5201800 MHz90 nmD01 MBLGA77504A SL7J52.80 GHz5201800 MHz90 nmD01 MBLGA77504A SL7KJ2.80 GHz5201800 MHz90 nmD01 MBLGA77504A SL7PR2.80 GHz520J1800 MHz90 nmE01 MBLGA77504A SL88H2.80E GHzN/A1800 MHz90 nmE01 MB478 pinN/A SL7KA2.80E GHzN/A1800 MHz90 nmD01 MB478 pinN/A SL7E32.80E GHzN/A1800 MHz90 nmD01 MB478 pinN/A SL7PL2.80E GHzN/A1800 MHz90 nmE01 MB478 pinN/A SL79K2.80E GHzN/A1800 MHz90 nmC01 MB478 pinN/A SL78Y2.80C GHzN/A1800 MHz0.13 micronD1512 KB478 pinN/A SL6WS2.60 GHzN/A1800 MHz0.13 micronD1512 KB478 pinN/A SL6WH2.60 GHzN/A1800 MHz0.13 micronD1512 KB478 pinN/A SL6WF2.40 GHzN/A1800 MHz0.13 micronD1512 KB478 pinN/A SL6Z32.40 GHzN/A1800 MHz0.13 micronM0512 KB478 pinN/A SL7FY2.40A GHzN/A1533 MHz90 nmC01 MB478 pinN/A P4 Extreme: SL7Z43.73 GHzN/A11066 MHz90 nmN02 MBLGA77504B SL7NF3.46 GHzN/A11066 MHz0.13 micronM0512 KBLGA77504B SL7RT3.46 GHzN/A11066 MHz0.13 micronM02 MBLGA77504B SL7CH3.40 GHzN/A1800 MHz0.13 micronM02 MB478 pinN/A SL7GD3.40 GHzN/A1800 MHz0.13 micronM02 MBLGA775N/A SL7AA3.20 GHzN/A1800 MHz0.13 micronM0512 KB478 pinN/A Pentium Processor Extreme Edition: SL9AN3.73 GHz96521066 MHz65 nmC14 MBLGA77505B SL8WM3.46 GHz95521066 MHz65 nmB14 MBLGA77505B SL94N3.46 GHz95521066 MHz65 nmB14 MB (2x2)LGA77505B SL8FK3.20 GHz8402800 MHz90 nmA02 MBLGA77505B Mobile Intel P4: SL77R3.20 GHzN/A1533 MHz0.13 micronD1512 KB478 pinN/A SL7DU3.20 GHzN/A1533 MHz90 nmD01 MB478 pinN/A SL77P3.06 GHzN/A1533 MHz0.13 micronD1512 KB478 pinN/A SL7DT3.06 GHzN/A1533 MHz90 nmD01 MB478 pinN/A SL77N2.80 GHzN/A1533 MHz0.13 micronD1512 KB478 pinN/A SL7DS2.80 GHzN/A1533 MHz90 nmD01 MB478 pinN/A SL77M2.66 GHzN/A1533 MHz0.13 micronD1512 KB478 pinN/A Intel Xeon Processor: SL9683.73 GHz508021066 MHz65 nmC14 MBLGA771N/A SL9693.46 GHz507021066 MHz65 nmC14 MBLGA771N/A SL9HA3.40 GHz7140M2800 MHz65 nmB016 MBMicro-FCPGAN/A SLBET3.33 GHzW358046.4 GT/s45 nmD08 MBLGA1366N/A SL9HD3.33 GHz7140N2667 MHz65 nmB016 MBMicro-FCPGAN/A SL96B3.20 GHz506321066 MHz65 nmC14 MBLGA771N/A SL9HB3.20 GHz7130M2800 MHz65 nmB08 MBMicro-FCPGAN/A SLBF23.20 GHzW558046.4 GT/s45 nmD08 MBLGA1366N/A SL96A3.20 GHz506021066 MHz65 nmC14 MBLGA771N/A SLBES3.20 GHzW357046.4 GT/s45 nmD08 MBLGA1366N/A SL9HE3.16 GHz7130N2667 MHz65 nmB08 MBMicro-FCPGAN/A SLBEY3.06 GHzW355044.8 GT/s45 nmD08 MBLGA1366N/A SL96C3 GHz50502667 MHz65 nmC14 MBLGA771N/A SL9HC3 GHz7120M2800 MHz65 nmB04 MBMicro-FCPGAN/A SL8UD3 GHz70412800 MHz90 nmA04 MBMicro-FCPGAN/A SL9HF3 GHz7120N2667 MHz65 nmB04 MBMicro-FCPGAN/A SL8UC3 GHz70402667 MHz90 nmA04 MBMicro-FCPGAN/A SLBJH2.93 GHzX347042.5 GT/s45 nmB18 MBLGA1156N/A SLBEX2.93 GHzW354044.8 GT/s45 nmD08 MBLGA1366N/A SLBF32.93 GHzX557046.4 GT/s45 nmD08 MBLGA1366N/A SL96D2.83 GHz50402667 MHz65 nmC14 MBLGA771N/A SLBJK2.80 GHzX346042.5 GT/s45 nmB18 MBLGA1156N/A SLBF42.80 GHzX556046.4 GT/s45 nmD08 MBLGA1366N/A SL8UB2.80 GHz70302800 MHz90 nmA02 MBMicro-FCPGAN/A SL96E2.66 GHz50302667 MHz65 nmC14 MBLGA771N/A SLBF52.66 GHzX555046.4 GT/s45 nmD08 MBLGA1366N/A SLBLD2.66 GHzX345042.5 GT/s45 nmB18 MBLGA1156N/A SLBEW2.66 GHzW352044.8 GT/s45 nmD08 MBLGA1366N/A SL8UA2.66 GHz70202667 MHz90 nmA02 MBMicro-FCPGAN/A SL9Q92.60 GHz7110M2800 MHz65 nmB04 MBMicro-FCPGAN/A SLBLF2.533 GHzX3440N/A2.5 GT/s45 nmB18 MBLGA1156N/A SLBF62.53 GHzE554045.86 GT/s45 nmD08 MBLGA1366N/A SL9QA2.50 GHz7110N2667 MHz65 nmB04 MBMicro-FCPGAN/A SLBF72.40 GHzE553045.86 GT/s45 nmD08 MBLGA1366N/A SLBFD2.26 GHzE552045.86 GT/s45 nmD08 MBLGA1366N/A SLBFA2.26 GHzL552045.86 GT/s45 nmD08 MBLGA1366N/A SLBN31.866 GHzL342642.5 GT/s45 nmB18 MBLGA1156N/A Intel Itanium Processors: (CPU SpeedProcessor #CoresBus SpeedMfg TechSteppingCache SizePackagePCG/FMB ) SL9DG1.60 GHz90402533 MHz90 nmC118 MBFC-PGA4N/A SL9P71.60 GHz90522533 MHz90 nmC224 MBFC-PGA4N/A SL98T1.60 GHz90522533 MHz90 nmC124 MBFC-PGA4N/A SL9DF1.60 GHz90502533 MHz90 nmC124 MBFC-PGA4N/A SL9PG1.60 GHz90502533 MHz90 nmC224 MBFC-PGA4N/A SL9P81.60 GHz90402533 MHz90 nmC218 MBFC-PGA4N/A SL9DE1.42 GHz90202533 MHz90 nmC112 MBFC-PGA4N/A SL9PB1.42 GHz90202533 MHz65 nmC212 MBFC-PGA4N/A SL9PC1.40 GHz 90152400 MHz90 nmC212 MBFC-PGA4N/A SL9BW1.40 GHz 90152400 MHz90 nmC112 MBFC-PGA4N/A Intel Atom Processor: SLGPT2 GHzZ5501533 MHz45 nmC0512 KBMicro-FCBGAN/A SLB2M1.86 GHzZ5401533 MHz45 nmC0512 KBMicro-FCBGAN/A SLGL91.66 GHzN280N/A667 MHz45 nmC0512 KBMicro-FCBGAN/A SLB6Z1.60 GHz2301533 MHz45 nmC0512 KBMicro-FCBGAN/A SLB6P1.60 GHzZ5301533 MHz45 nmC0512 KBMicro-FCBGAN/A SLG9Y1.60 GHz3302533 MHz45 nmC01 MBMicro-FCBGAN/A SLB731.60 GHzN2701533 MHz45 nmC0512 KBMicro-FCBGAN/A SLB2H1.33 GHzZ5201533 MHz45 nmC0512 KBMicro-FCBGAN/A SLGMG1.20 GHzZ5151400 MHz45 nmC0512 KBMicro-FCBGAN/A Core i7 Processor: SLBEN3.06 GHzI7-95044.8 GT/s45 nmD08 MBLGA136608 SLBCK2.93 GHzI7-94044.8 GT/s45 nmC08 MBLGA136608 SLBJG2.93 GHzI7-87044.8 GT/s45 nmB18 MBLGA115609B SLBJJ2.80 GHzI7-86044.8 GT/s45 nmN/A8 MBLGA115609B SLBCH2.66 GHzI7-92044.8 GT/s45 nmC08 MBLGA136608 SLBEJ2.66 GHzI7-92044.8 GT/s45 nmD08 MBLGA136608 Core i7 Processor Extreme Edition: SLBEQ3.33 GHzI7-97546.4 GT/s45 nmD08 MBLGA136608 SLBCJ3.20 GHzI7-96546.4 GT/s45 nmC08 MBLGA136608 Core i7 Mobile Processor: SLBLX1.733 GHzI7-820QM42.5 GT/s45 nmB18 MBMicro-FCPGAN/A SLBLY1.60 GHzI7-720QM42.5 GT/s45 nmB16 MBMicro-FCPGAN/A Core i7 Mobile Processor Extreme Edition: SLBLW2 GHzI7-920XM42.5 GT/s45 nmB18 MBMicro-FCPGAN/A Ref: http://processorfinder.intel.com/Default.aspx Relative to the amount of work done, all these CPUs will give you more badges just because they have HT; they are seen by Boinc as having twice as many processors. However, the list of CPUs without HT is actually much longer! [Edit 2 times, last edit by skgiven at Oct 20, 2009 11:49:50 AM] |
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Movieman
Veteran Cruncher Joined: Sep 9, 2006 Post Count: 1042 Status: Offline |
to skgiven:
----------------------------------------I'm usually not at a loss for words but I don't know what to say here. We use 'what we got" Good,new,old, with or without HT.. It's what we have and we try to get the most out of it. Heck, your machine is better than most on the forum. Don't let this badge deal bother you so much. It really isn't that important. As I said before, "Don't sweat the small stuff" Speed matters, badges don't. I have one friend whose dying from advanced bladder cancer and another who just went through life changing surgery with the same thing. The first guy has a 2 year old daughter who is a gem and sees him as the light in her life. These are the reasons to crunch, and to let something like badges bother us to be blunt is a waste of bandwidth and whatever cpu cycles it takes to write about it. |
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