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Sgt.Joe
Ace Cruncher USA Joined: Jul 4, 2006 Post Count: 7697 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Some (-13'F) air here and getting down  Freeze freeze, I  freeze...Merry Xmas's you fellows! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyqjN8Au8QI Hey, I thought you were looking forward to a real winter. It seems you getting the a bit of it now, with the snow and cold. Been balmy here, in the 20's F(-5C), but will be less that 0 F (-18C) after Christmas. I liked the music. Brought back memories of when I was young. the music has a nice tranquil quality to it. I know most of the words, but with such a high pitched singers, it was still hard to understand. Cheers
Sgt. Joe
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Bearcat
Master Cruncher USA Joined: Jan 6, 2007 Post Count: 2803 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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Here's a dumb question...how do you tell what your actual time vs. your CPU time after the work unit has finished and left? I ran one CEP2 unit and I wanted to see the results. Is there a log somewhere?  I've never really cared before about real vs. CPU time and don't know where to check that.When the wu is done, before you upload it, click on it, then on your left, click properties. You can do it while it's crunching too. I usually wait until it's over 50% when I do, otherwise just wait till it's over. They all have a gap between crunching time and overall time but cep2 will be larger depending how many you crunch at the same time. When I did 4 at one time, I see over an hour difference. Sucks on the wasted computer time but if you want a badge for the project, you have to suck it up and deal with it. Am about 45 days out from 1 year. Doubt I will go for 2 on cep2.
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kateiacy
Veteran Cruncher USA Joined: Jan 23, 2010 Post Count: 1027 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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.how do you tell what your actual time vs. your CPU time after the work unit has finished and left? I ran one CEP2 unit and I wanted to see the results. Is there a log somewhere? I've never really cared before about real vs. CPU time and don't know where to check that.Even if the WU has already completed and reported, you can still find out on the web page under Results Status. Click the "Valid" or "Pending Validation" under Status for that WU. It will give you the wall clock start time and end time (and a ton of detail in between). And the CPU time is in another column of Results Status.  |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Here's a dumb question...how do you tell what your actual time vs. your CPU time after the work unit has finished and left? I ran one CEP2 unit and I wanted to see the results. Is there a log somewhere? I've never really cared before about real vs. CPU time and don't know where to check that.When the wu is done, before you upload it, click on it, then on your left, click properties. You can do it while it's crunching too. I usually wait until it's over 50% when I do, otherwise just wait till it's over. They all have a gap between crunching time and overall time but cep2 will be larger depending how many you crunch at the same time. When I did 4 at one time, I see over an hour difference. Sucks on the wasted computer time but if you want a badge for the project, you have to suck it up and deal with it. Am about 45 days out from 1 year. Doubt I will go for 2 on cep2. I did find the properties of the task. Just wondered where I could find it if it was already sent. Anyway, just before I went to bed last night I checked the CEP2 unit I got, and check the properties of that unit at 25% and it was only 10 seconds apart. Now that was only doing 1 CEP2, 6 DDDT2s and 1 GPU/CPU (yes, you need one CPU thread open when doing a gpu work unit). Now you got me curious, I will have to do this test again.  |
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Former Member
Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
.how do you tell what your actual time vs. your CPU time after the work unit has finished and left? I ran one CEP2 unit and I wanted to see the results. Is there a log somewhere? I've never really cared before about real vs. CPU time and don't know where to check that.Even if the WU has already completed and reported, you can still find out on the web page under Results Status. Click the "Valid" or "Pending Validation" under Status for that WU. It will give you the wall clock start time and end time (and a ton of detail in between). And the CPU time is in another column of Results Status. Ah yes, when I'm doing all CEP2 units the results are about 1 hour off. Yikes! Very interesting. When these DDDT2 units are done I'm going to test this again. |
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Bearcat
Master Cruncher USA Joined: Jan 6, 2007 Post Count: 2803 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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It may be a worthy project but it's not an efficient project. Very wasteful on resources. To bad they couldn't break it down better or at least break it in half.
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mclaver
Veteran Cruncher Joined: Dec 19, 2005 Post Count: 566 Status: Offline Project Badges: 
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It may be a worthy project but it's not an efficient project. Very wasteful on resources. To bad they couldn't break it down better or at least break it in half. I agree about the inefficiencies of CEP2. While I was only doing CEP2, I was getting about 350,000 points per day. When I shifted to doing only DDDT2, that jumped up to over 450,000 points per day. I was running multiple versions of CEP2 on my machines becasue I have plenty of resources. According to comcast speedtest, i Get 60 Mps download and 9 Mps upload so network was not a problem and I have 2 GB- 6GB on all of may machines ao memory was not a problem. CEP2 still produced significanly less points per day than DDDT2.    |
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Sgt.Joe
Ace Cruncher USA Joined: Jul 4, 2006 Post Count: 7697 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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It may be a worthy project but it's not an efficient project. Very wasteful on resources. To bad they couldn't break it down better or at least break it in half. I agree about the inefficiencies of CEP2. While I was only doing CEP2, I was getting about 350,000 points per day. When I shifted to doing only DDDT2, that jumped up to over 450,000 points per day. I was running multiple versions of CEP2 on my machines becasue I have plenty of resources. According to comcast speedtest, i Get 60 Mps download and 9 Mps upload so network was not a problem and I have 2 GB- 6GB on all of may machines ao memory was not a problem. CEP2 still produced significanly less points per day than DDDT2. I agree it is a resource hog, but the scientist cleanenergy did give a pretty good explanation of why it is necessary to have the project structured the way it is. I think if they could make it less troublesome they would. I only run one CEP2 job at a time on my quads so the impact is minimized. The dual Xeon machine seems to handle 2 at a time without too much problem. That being said, the only thing that machine does is crunch. Here's to hoping they have a programming breakthrough to lighten the load for the heavy duty crunchers like yourself. Cheers
Sgt. Joe
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Cruncher Joined: May 22, 2018 Post Count: 0 Status: Offline |
Computer: asus-i7-950 Name E200854_581_A.27.C20H11N3S3Se.379.3.set1d06_0 Application The Clean Energy Project - Phase 2 6.37 Workunit name E200854_581_A.27.C20H11N3S3Se.379.3.set1d06 State Running Received 12/23/2010 8:59:27 PM Report deadline 1/2/2011 8:59:29 PM Estimated app speed 2.31 GFLOPs/sec Estimated task size 76610 GFLOPs CPU time at last checkpoint 06:51:18 CPU time 08:07:57 Elapsed time 08:26:19 Estimated time remaining 03:58:59 Fraction done 67.773 % Virtual memory size 387.41 MB Working set size 173.03 MB Directory slots/8 Process ID 9199 This is running work units on all 8 threads but only 1 of those treads is the above unit the rest are DDDT2(6) and GPUGrid(1) At 67% it is ~20 minutes off. This is running on the SSD. |
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Bearcat
Master Cruncher USA Joined: Jan 6, 2007 Post Count: 2803 Status: Offline Project Badges:
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For the cep2, that's 19 minutes difference, and not done yet. If you can, let us know what the difference is when completed. Surprised it's that large already on a ssd. Going to dedicate my 4 core to cep2 to push it over the 1 year mark, then decide from there if I switch or not. Would like to get 2 years completed.
----------------------------------------Wish you all a MERRY CHRISTMAS from my family to yours. Have a safe holiday! 
Crunching for humanity since 2007!
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