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Re: Windows 10 login

BTW, got a mail from MS, it may take weeks before my other device will get W10 offered because of controlled staging. The 3rd multi-boot is off anyway, on 'Too warm to even run it throttled' holidays since mid June.
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Just "upgraded" my Dell laptop from Win 7 to Win 10. As said by others, the upgrade went pretty well with several reboots. Everything was looking good. I then noticed that my Norton Security was not running. Looked around and it was not there. Checked with Norton and did a download as Norton said that Norton Security was compatible with Win 10. Win 10 would not run fresh Norton as it was Not Compatible. Called Norton and was chatting for 3 - 4 HOURS. No resolution and being bumped up to the "experts". Will call me back withing 2 days. In the meantime, I feel exposed. Not particularly happy about this.

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My issue is resolved. I finally got my call back from Norton. It turns out that the first "agent" gave me the wrong file to load. The one today gave me the correct version of my Norton program and it loaded up quickly and works as expected.
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Someone not happy about W10 and securing [that is securing your information for MS to use ad-lib [which is kind of what Google does too if you click OK on Google+]. All that 'free' software comes with a boundless privacy compromise.

The FSF's statement on Windows 10 http://www.fsf.org/news/the-fsfs-statement-on-windows-10

(Just watching the show unfold and discover all these bits they're not up-front about.... No Get-Started hit yet cool ).
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Not sure but think it was Jim writing in to say he exorcised W10 because it was jammed into his computer without his OK. Here I am in Italy, the download starting alright without me saying OK, then the screen came up with, yes, US terms and conditions, which please Decline or Accept. Left that screen just minimized to the start bar. 24 hours later... auto-aborted as failed. Again it's offering the download. Now the question is, is the 2712.6MB still on the disk somewhere or will it download the 2.7GB again. Got bandwidth to spare, but not bandwidth to waste. frustrated
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Hello fellow crunchers, have any of you heard about Windows 10 being invalid if you change your mother board? Is it only if you change your motherboard or does the free version of Win10 becomes invalid if you do any other hardware change?

I have heard this online so I am hoping that its just a rumor. Basically as far as I understand it if the user changes their motherboard then they would need to buy the full version of Win10 after that. Wouldn't it just be possible to download a program to get the Serial key of the Win10 installation then download an iso file and re-install it on the machine again after the motherboard was changed?

Or is the free Win10 attached to the win7/8/8.1 license key since its technically an upgrade?
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A Microsoft MVP has stated that a Retail licence "Includes transfer rights to another computer" but that an OEM licence doesn't, and that "OEM versions allow all hardware upgrades except for an upgrade to a different model motherboard". That's a start, but it would be good to see an official confirmation.
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Hello fellow crunchers, have any of you heard about Windows 10 being invalid if you change your mother board? Is it only if you change your motherboard or does the free version of Win10 becomes invalid if you do any other hardware change?

I have heard this online so I am hoping that its just a rumor. Basically as far as I understand it if the user changes their motherboard then they would need to buy the full version of Win10 after that. Wouldn't it just be possible to download a program to get the Serial key of the Win10 installation then download an iso file and re-install it on the machine again after the motherboard was changed?

Or is the free Win10 attached to the win7/8/8.1 license key since its technically an upgrade?

I'm not sure whether there is a good answer to this question, but as far as I know, it depends on the license of your current windows copy. OEM license cannot be transferred to a another computer, whereas retail license can be transferred.

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A Microsoft MVP has stated that a Retail licence "Includes transfer rights to another computer" but that an OEM licence doesn't, and that "OEM versions allow all hardware upgrades except for an upgrade to a different model motherboard". That's a start, but it would be good to see an official confirmation.


Just to make sure that I understand does OEM license mean the upgrade that Microsoft it doing?

So the full version (if I choose not to do this upgrade from Win8.1 to 10) can be installed and re-installed pretty much any way you choose.

The OEM version (if I decide to get the free version of Win10 now) would let me upgrade my computer, except when I update my motherboard. So if I plan to update it I might as well start saving for a new OS that I will have to buy in the future.

I am not planning on upgrading my motherboard anytime soon, but just want to make sure I plan ahead and understand what strings this free OS version comes with.
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Hello fellow crunchers, have any of you heard about Windows 10 being invalid if you change your mother board? Is it only if you change your motherboard or does the free version of Win10 becomes invalid if you do any other hardware change?

I have heard this online so I am hoping that its just a rumor. Basically as far as I understand it if the user changes their motherboard then they would need to buy the full version of Win10 after that. Wouldn't it just be possible to download a program to get the Serial key of the Win10 installation then download an iso file and re-install it on the machine again after the motherboard was changed?

Or is the free Win10 attached to the win7/8/8.1 license key since its technically an upgrade?


Microsoft OS 7 and 8 have built in algorithm's that help determine if you have or the OS is running on a "new computer." This algorithm determines if you substantially upgrade your computer to the point where you have a "new computer" (as determined by Microsoft algorithm). Part of this algorithm states that if you have a different motherboard, it is deemed you have a new computer and you must purchase another OS license. If your motherboard dies within a short period of time after an installation (30 days?? Not sure) you may still be able to reinstall the OS on another motherboard. If your motherboard is no longer operational after a period of time and do not want to purchase another license the trick would be to purchase the same EXACT motherboard and re-install it. Any slight deviations are picked up by the OS and its algorithm and it will be deemed to be a new "computer."

Microsoft changed its EULA (End User License Agreement) starting with OS 7 starting that the OS is for one computer and that license cannot be transferred to another computer. XP and earlier licenses allowed you to transfer the OS to a different computer providing the license was running on one computer, however this was not applicable if you got the OS pre-installed from a computer manufacturer, such as Dell, IBM/Lenovo, Toshiba, etc. If you did purchase a Dell, IBM/Lenovo, Toshiba, etc. computer with the OS installed (XP and earlier), the OS cannot be transferred to another computer without exception.

Regarding Windows 10, it is an upgrade and assume it is attached to your previous key and your computer. If you change the motherboard, expect to purchase a new Windows 10 license.
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Now a few years ago, had install issues, called some number in Milano, and was complete computer guided through the re-activation process. In effect, the license did transfer... phew I went.

(Was W7 btw)
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